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sallysue
Do you think horse riders who use the road should pay road tax and insurance?

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fire4511 , but bike riders dont travel at 3miles an hour two abreast ,creating traffic tail backs for miles and crap all over the road .what about the skidding hazard?



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ஐ♥P u S s y CaT♥ஐ♥is a mummy!!!
i personally have never seen a horse on the road! which hole do u come from???

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Hawkeye85
Sh*t coming from a horse is not a hazard. Maybe you should get your tyres changed cos they sound Bald.

The reason why cyclists, walkers and horse owners don't pay for tax and insurance cos they do not impact any damage on the road and don't pollute the earth.

Horse riders group up like that for protection because most drivers are arrogant as*holes it is them you should be angry at ruining it for the rest of you.

I don't see how horses cause a problem it is the drivers problem cos they can not drive properly i live in the country and never had problems with tractors or animals. When you get to the urban or city areas people cant drive and choose to sit behind and wait missing out on passing causing a tail back cos they cant drive.

Take a chill pill and get off your a*s and clean your car.

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w359borg
i could be wrong but don't horse owners pay insurrance just as dog and cat owners pay pet insurrance? i don't think tax is fare. its not like you park you horse in a car park, and a horse is a living thing.

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dooleys18
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hell no..... horses have a million times more rights to be on the roads in English law than you and i have. they were here long before and don't pollute our skys with petrol or have crashes.

and manure keeps our green pastures looking lovely lol

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Michael Schumacher fan 1956
no i dont think so on road tax but insurance to you and the horse yes i think you should because some daft twit of a motorist might be daft and the horse could get hurt and so could you, look what happened to christopher reeve he was insured and i know he wasnt on the road but he fell off his horse and he eventually went wheelchair bound and died,

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Aaron S
why should they pay tax? it would be a waste of time as horses spend most of thier time on bridal ways and the owners probably pay for tax and insurance on an lgv to carry thier horses from place to place aswell.
i suppose you think cyclists and pedestrians should pay too

whilst the habits of other road users can become irritating
please keep calm i'd feel bad if i scared a horse and the rider got hurt because i was impatient .alough horses should not be riding 2 abreast and should be lead by the reins if there is a risk of of beng startled

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JaCksOn
i think it all depends on the damage they could do to the road like cars.they do have metal shoes on them to be able to be on the hard surface and not hurt there feet.but then what about pedal bikes?even tho they have rubber tires,but the weight is way different then a car or a horse,it should prolly go by weight impact also.

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oklatom
They do.

The Amish, for example, pay all taxes with the exception of Social Security taxes.

In 1955, the IRS extended the Social Security Act of 1935 to include farm operators. At the time, some Amish people immediately complied with the tax, while others conscientiously objected to it. Many felt that it violated the separation of church and state, some did not want to accept monies for government programs, and still others believed that paying a commercial insurance for the elderly went against their trust in God to take care of them.

The IRS and the Amish played a convoluted shell game for close to a decade, until it all came to a head with the seizure of a struggling farmer's horses in 1961. The Amish elders stuck firmly by their principles, and the ensuing media and community outrage over the incident led the IRS to relent four years later. Tucked away in the 1965 Medicare Bill was a clause exempting the "Old Order Amish" and other religious groups that conscientiously objected to paying insurance premiums from Social Security tax. To be exempt, the group or sect must have been established prior to 1950 and maintain reasonable provisions for their elderly.


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welcome news
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Most horse insurance policies cover liability whilst the horse is being ridden (you can even buy a rider policy to cover yourself riding any hhorse).

Riding schools must by law have public liability insurance (did that surprise you!)

I agree that people should read the Highway code as there are rules in it for horse riders.

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You seem to have completely missed the point here. Just because horse riders travel at three mph does not mean they should have to pay road tax and insurance, that is not what road tax and insurance is for!

I live in London and see police horses trotting around the streets several times a week. It really annoys me that the police don't clear up after their horses, I know it would be impractical but dog owners have to do clean up after their dogs and horse poo is much bigger but gets left on the streets. .

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RaGeBe
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No. Good enough?

Alright then. Horses don't actually need a metal road to travel around, they're quite happy with a dirt path. They don't cause damage to road surfaces (lorries and buses do that) so they're not a cause of road re-surfacing.

All so called road-tax should be scrapped anyway and the monies raised from fuel duty, thus the more you use, the more you pay.

As far as insurance goes, I suspect the vast majority of owners already have a third-party liability on their house insurance, so they're covered there.

Good question though.

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Alex G
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I expect horse riders do have insurance, as horses are fairly expensive items.

Road Tax is required only for Motor vehicles, not cycles, pedal scooters, pedestrians or livestock, so horse riders do not pay road tax, and do not even need roads.

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kaznaid
Horses and their riders must have some sort of public liability insurance - even my pet insurance for my dogs and cats cover the eventuality of them causing injury to anyone else, ie running into the road and causing an accident.

However, some horse riders are totally arrogant and act as if they own the road - the normal retort is "horses were here before cars!!".

The fact that the horses leave their deposits all over the road is a pain - perhaps they think that the gardeners will pick it up for their roses!

As for cyclists - I doubt whether they are all covered on their insurance for riding on the roads. They weave in and out of the traffic - I bet most of them never took the old "cycling proficiency test" - they should be tested! Especially the kids!

Ho Hum!

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The Mighty Atom
The vast majority of horse riders do have insurance to cover huge vets bills etc, and this also covers them whilst on public roads. I think that as a road user, horse riders should be required by law to carry insurance that covers the potential consequences of them being involved in an accident.
I don't think that road tax is appropriate for horses, as they actually spend so little time on the road, and in real terms do so few miles on the road, that like cyclists they should not pay road tax.
Cleaning up after your horse on the roads is a great idea but not practical, so I like the theory, but how could you make it work? It's not safe to stop in the middle of the road, get off your horse, clean up, remount and carry on, so I think that this we just have to accept.
The other thing that irritates me is the arrogance of SOME horse riders, who think that they have a God given right to walk 2 or even 3 abreast down the road, holding up all the traffic and then shouting at the frustrated drivers who eventually manage to go past them. These people get all horse riders a bad name, and should be open for on the spot fines by the police, if seen riding in this manner, either as dangerous riding, or causing an unnecessary obstruction of some type.

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rookethorne
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Horses don't need to pay a road tax in the UK because the animal is exempt as they were using 'roadways' long before any car was invented.

They should have a minimum of third party insurance though, to cover any damage caused.

Trouble is, its very difficult to identify the owner of a horse unless some form of identification was attached, and I can't really see it standing still while you nail a number plate to its rear.

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Happihawkeye
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They should be taxed onthe amount of horse dumps they leave on the roads.

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Why should they, dog owners dont pay tax or insurance to walk their dogs.

And nor do Cyclist's. There easily a million times more likely to crash, hurt someone or damage something, but they dont pay extra tax or even have insurance.




But however, their owners should be made to clear up their faeces. It's not nice, dog owners get a £500 fine, so should they.

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fire4511
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Yes, as should bicyclists, and anyone else who uses the roads!

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Click Simple
They should have a number plate tattooed on their Rs

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blackcobra487
Why not? They're using the road, they should have to pay like everyone else.

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racey-pacey
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If a horse/dog are not insured, then the owner(s) are irresponsible owners. If you are going to pick out horse/dog owners, WHAT ABOUT CYCLITS???????

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Happy Penguin
One could say the same about bicycles.

The majority (if not all) horsemen ride for fun, not for transport and generally don't use the road that much.

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Charlotte G
hell yeah they should pay like every 1 else,,,,, and carry poo bags 4 there s+*t i h8 them

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ryankneale
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I think that the Amish should pay something.

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Grey Mare
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They should be required to;

A> Pay road tax,
B> Have compulsory insurance,
C> Be required by law to take a test of their ability to control their horse,
D> Be required by law to take their horse sh1t home with them!
E> Required by law to have their horses tested for suitability to be allowed out on a public highway.

Of course, that's only an opinion!! but who's always the first to complain when they get launched over a hedge by an over highly strung animal?

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