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 I have a feeling my adoption counsellor is going to try and talk me into keeping my baby?
I had an initial phone contact with an adoption counsellor today. She was really nice but when I tried to speak to her about adoption all she kept saying was that we would talk about adoption down ...


 If you believe in abolishing pre-birth adoptions, do you also believe in abolishing abortion?

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 can i get my child back after 10 years have passed if her biological father didnt approve the adoption?
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 How would YOU feel if you daycare provider was smoking in the house or car with your child?
Apparently many here think it's okay:
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Just because they are doing 24 ...


 Do you think adoption really isn't for everyone?
My husband and I have a 10 month old baby and are expecting another in 2 months. I really want to adopt in a couple of years when we're ready for another baby. (We're worried about cervical ...


 I just found out im adopted?
Today when i got home my parents told me i was adopted from Russia and im 13 why did they wait for so long?...


 when do i have to start looking for an adopated family?
I'm about 16 weeks and the father and I r not together I am very young I think it is so unfair to keep a child if we can't give it wat it deserve such as a family for example, is that ...


 did anyone else watch this?
It was the most recent 16 and pregnant on MTV. So far, the few I have watched have have all been of the mothers and fathers barely getting by, fighting, and so on. I'm on bedrest, and its ...


 Adoptive Parents, are you looking for a way to open records?
Have you thought about joining the fight to unseal records for your own kids? Yes I said your own kids, because they are your kids. All rhetoric put aside, if there was a group you could join, that ...


 Adoption fraud? Illegal? ?
Is a "birth mother" engaging in illegal activity by promising a child to a couple without the intention of going through with the process?

I know if she was to receive money it ...


 Why do you hate me when you don't even know me?
As a child I always knew I would grow up and care for children that weren't mine, and possibly adopt some as well. When I got married almost 16 years ago, we naturally tried to conceive, and I ...


 How many adoptee's wish they had NEVER been adopted?
Do you feel that way, even if you were in foster care, orphanage or had parents who were less than ideal?
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Curly: You are accusing others of being closed minded. If ...


 Daughters given up for adoption without fathers knowledge?
My partner just found out he has 6 year old twins. He never knew anything about this. The reason for the adoption was because the girls parents did not want embarrassment. My partner is not sure if ...


 Now that the Pope is admitting to covering up the rape and molestation of children by its priests, will he...?
apologize to the women and their children that were forced to separate via "adoption" during the BSE?

The church seemed to play a big role in encouraging the mistreatment of all ...


 *Hoping to Adopt..Is this unusual?*?
My partner and I have been trying to adopt for over a year now with no luck. We decided to go ahead and set up a nursery for when our bundle of joy comes. We have been getting a lot of strange looks ...


 Should all viewpoints on adoption be heard?
I have seen a number of questions on here today and I wonder if it is right to squash all the negative stories about adoption? I feel that there is a small minority that is outright aganist adoption. ...


 Can anyone tell me some free websites for adoption?
Im giving my baby up for adoption. please don't judge.
I want a open adoption and want to be able to see the people Im going to pick but is there any websites where I can see & or view ...


 are you adopted? How do you feel?
19 yrs old 24 weeks, i am possibly considering adoption for my unborn baby boy, (please no insults u dont know my personal circumstances) but i probolly wont be able to since i love him so much ...


 What's wrong with being Angry?
When I came to this web site I asked why people were so angry. I have since learned that there are some pretty good reasons people have for being angry.
So, why is anger considered such a ...


 Planning to adopt - but now shes pregnant! What would you do in our shoes?
My wife and me have been trying for 3 years to get pregnant, but with no luck.
so anyway, long story short, we are adopting a baby (the girl is 29 weeks pregnant), but my wife is 8 weeks ...



Kayla
I'm pregnant, but don't want dad to see the baby...?
The day I broke up and finally left my current boyfriend, I took a pregnancy test and it was positive. I confirmed this by blood work. I dumped him because he is unstable, has a low income job that will take him no where in life, he is lazy, lives at home with his parents where he plans on staying forever and owns nothing. He spends all his time and money on his computer, it's his only friend. Not father material, and to make matters worse he suffers from a severe mental health disorder. I need him to pay child support as I own my own business and would not have enough to care 100% for the baby. My family is going to help me with care, but I will need to go after him for child support. He told me to abort and I told him I would not. In Ontario, does he have any rights to see the baby given his mental state, while still being required to pay support? I am not asking your opinion on what I should do with the baby, I'm only asking a legal advice question here. Thanks.



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Cass erole♥
Given his mental state, and the fact that he has little income, and lives with his parents, he will most likely not get custody of the child if he tries to fight for it. So, take him to court or work something out with him alone. Whichever you choose; Good luck(: Oh, and CONGRATS! :):) A baby is such a blessing.

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stevies.beloved
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You would need to go to court and tell the court of his metal status. Tell the court that he is unfit to be a father for the baby. You already have a lott on your side, he did say to get an abortion. So, he has shown that he doesn't want the baby. He does legally have the right to see the baby, But you must take him to court to show them he is an unfit parent. I wish you good luck and congratulations on your new baby!

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LNSDQ
I don know if this is the same in Ontario than in the US. If he is paying child support he has the right to see if his child. Only if he gives up parental rights will he not be able to see the child and you would not recieve any monies from him. I would think long and hard about that child and his feelings not having a father before you make your decision people can change and deserve a second change.

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sizesmith
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There's a law in some various USA states, that is called the putative father registry. It is a registry where a man must register with the clerk's office at the courthouse, and declare that he is the father of the baby (in some states, it's as little as 10 days within the birth of the child). If he doesn't sign, then he loses his rights to the child, but not his obligations, including child support.

In some states, such as Florida, it even says that ignorance is no excuse.

The law is made to protect mothers into not having to raise a child she doesn't want, and permits her to sign away rights for adoption. It often isn't used, and many attorneys aren't aware of the law, but it can protect a child in a case like this. Search your local area, and see if there's such a law.

Also, remember that some men do change when they have to. It might be very good to give him a chance to be a father. Good luck.

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Go to the legal section not the adoption section. So what you're saying is that you want to take away all his rights as a parent but you still want his money? Well he's on a low income job, so you won't get much and he can take you to court for visitation and he'll get at least twice a month visits and even more if he can prove he wants to turn his life around and that you would be a bad mother (not my opinion, that's just how custody cases work) so if he can prove you are a bad mother then you may as well just leave it and not ask for support and let him have nothing to do with his child.

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Dalton & Kaiah's Mommy
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If he pays support he has the right to visitation. What you have to remember is he is the father and apparently you found him attractive at some point. What you consider to be a mental problem may not be or he may be on medication. Unless the father (or mother) is a threat to the child he should have the right to see the child.

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Michelle S
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Ok. I got pregnant at 17 in a simular situation. For some reason I felt like he was a good enough guy to sleep with, but not a good enough guy to be a father. He also proved to be a jerk and ask me to have an abortion and I refused. Basically, I cut all ties. His name is not on the birth certificate. Also, my son is 12 and I have never received a dime of child support for him. If the father pays child support, he is going to have some kind of visitation. No doubt. Good luck to you!

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Renee
if he doesn't want to he can sign over his rights which unfortunately means you cant get child support if he still wants to have supervised visitation you can go after him for child support cause he doesn't want to have much to do with the baby any ways if you tell the court what you told us they will be on your side and make him pay

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Princess
I dont know really you can call your lawyer and he can tell you if he has to pay child support. if he is a teenager with no job and a mental illness you didnt say his illness it depends most likely not . If hes a teenager with no job thats bad. I'm glad you are taking care of the child with families help then aborting the child.. which most people dont realize but is a sin and its pro-murder not pro-chioce. And im also glad you aren't giving to some strange adoption parents. If i had a baby i have to take care of it myself too cause you can never trust the new parents they appear nice and caring but you never know how they will actually raise the baby. Call your lawyer and find out and I wish you the best and take care.Talk to your church they may be able to help you a bit with prayer and some baby finiances too maybe.

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Pea Pod
Unless he is willing to not see the child and pay or he is deamed "unfit" by the courts your SOL. And from what you have said he dose not seem "unfit". He has EVER right to see HIS child. It is as much HIS as YOURS.

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mommy_2_liam
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In Canada, he is the Father and he has a legal right to see the child. IT is also the child's right to see both parents. You would only be able to use the mental status, if you have a Dr's not, and he is a danger to the baby. Whether he pays child support or not, it is his legal right to see the child. You might want to talk to a lawyer to see.

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AnnaBelle
First, I MUST correct another poster...Child suppport is not contingent on visitation, and visitation is not contingent on child support! Child support is NOT paying for the right to see the child, it is paying to support them. Child support and visitation are two different things! This means that he still has a right to see the child, even if he is defaulting on child support, and he still has to pay child support, even if he is not seeing the child. Period.

He is the father of this child. You can't change that. Plus, good, bad or ugly, your child has a right to know who he is, regardless. My recommendation is three-fold:

1) If you believe that his mental health condition will affect the safety/wellbeing of your child, go to family court as soon as possible to obtain an order of protection (which is like a restraining order) and seek supervised visits, to prevent him from seeing or taking his child without supervision. You will need to prove that his condition is a safety risk.

2) Get a child support order as soon as is humanly possible. Even if he doesn't pay voluntarily, the order will be in place so that whenever he gets a job, opens a bank account, etc., money can be garnisheed from him. He has a responsibility to pay for the baby he made, no matter what.

3) Seek other support. In Ontario, there are plenty of programs that will help you to support your child. Swallow your pride and access them. This too, shall pass. You may also want to get a referral from your doc for some counselling for yourself. This is a stressful situation. (And if you get a referral from your doctor, OHIP might cover it?) If nothing else, there are lots of free counselors out there. Google some in your area. Take care of your mental and physical health.

Good luck. But remember, him signing over his rights doesn't necessarily solve the problem. He is still your baby's dad, and has a right to be one, if he so chooses, and safety permitting.

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Rob
You can ask him to sign over his parental rights but then you can't get support. If you want to get support you have to declare him as the father on the birth certificate but he could try and get custody. If you can prove that he is completely unfit as a parent you might get full custody. But if he has no job or stable income then he can't be relied on to provide any support. Most child support is based on the fathers income - no income, no support.

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Andraya - Snark's Sister
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In Canada support and access are two different matters that can often be agreed upon during family mediation or, if that fails, in family court. It is not your job to deny him access, just like it isn't his job to deny his child financial support. Once the baby is born you will need to contact Family Mediation Services and between you, the father and a mediator a support agreement can be arranged. If the father wants access he will be able to bring that up in mediation as well. If the two of you can not reach an agreement about access, or support, with mediation the next step would be family court where a judge will decide based on the situation.

Child support payments are based on a percentage of his income and the specific extra needs of the child, such as child care. The federal child support guidelines will be used to calculate the amount to be paid. His right to access is not dependent on child support. If he goes for, and is granted, an access order you can not deny him that right. If you don't allow him to see his child and he has a valid access order you can be taken back to court and an enforcement order will be added to the access order. If you still deny him the right to access you can be charged with a criminal offense or ordered to pay him financial restitution. Likewise, if he refuses to pay his support you can register with maintenance enforcement and he risks losing his driver's license, having his GST credit, tax refunds and wages garnished.

There are many ways he can still see his child even if a judge finds him unfit for unsupervised visits. You don't state what type of mental illness he has or if it is actually diagnosed but it is highly unlikely that he will not be granted some form of access. He will ALWAYS have the option of court supervised visits unless he is abusive to the child during a court supervised visit. He would be responsible for the costs associated with having his visits supervised but unless he has a history of abuse toward children it is unlikely that route would even be taken. It is more likely that his visits would need to be in his parent's home with them present if it is determined that supervision is necessary.

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surojabu
If you ask him to sign over his parental rights which would ensure he has no right to the child (visitation or otherwise), you will not be able to get support from him. If you want child support from him, you have to pursue him as the father.

Contrary to what others on here have said, paying child support and visitation DO NOT go hand in hand. You can have a court order for child support but if there is no court order mandating visitation, you are not obligated to allow him to see the child (even if he pays his support in full and on time). Likewise, you have to obey court ordered visitation even if he does not pay child support as required.

However, pursuing him as the father (for support purposes) leaves it open for him to petition the court for joint custody and visitation. He may not do this. But then again he may. If he decides to pursue custody or visitation, you could make an argument to the court for full custody and limited/supervised visitation for the father. But ultimately the court will decide what is in the best interest of the child.

On a side issue, I'm not sure what kind of support you think you'll get out of him if he doesn't work and is unstable. Just because you have a court order doesn't mean you'll see any money from him. And also, you need to be concerned about the child's well being because many mental health issues are hereditary -- so keep that in mind regarding the child's development as it grows older.

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