when you adopt a child, are they a step sibling to the other children? |
| okay, I am writing a story and i would like to know this. Lets say im going to adopt a child but i already have two of my own children, when I adopt the other will she or he be a step sibling to my ... |
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The biological father won't give up birth rights, can I still give my baby up for adoption? |
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AP'S: If the mother of your adopted child happens to be pregnant again, do you think you are entitled? |
to their unborn child?
Would it offend you if the mother decided to parent her child?
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How do I tell the adoption agency that I want a white baby without them thinking I'm racist? |
| My wife and I can't have kids of our own and want to adopt a baby. I'm not racist, but I would rather have a baby that looks like me. What's the best way to say this without appearing ... |
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why do people put down potential adoptive parents with jabs such as "you'll never love them like your own", |
| or "it's different when it's your flesh and blood". Who the hell are they to say that a parent can't love thier child as much as someone else can just because they don'... |
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Will I regret adoption? |
My fiancé broke up with me last night, 2 weeks before our wedding. He wants me to just "cancel everything" I’m 5 months pregnant.
Even if he comes back and I’m committed 15... |
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How come so many people are against adoption? |
| My husband and i want to have a child but we also want to adopt just as bad. We dont understand why people are so judge mental. Why bring another life into this world when they are so many children ... |
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Can a family member adopt your baby? |
| My uncle and his girlfriend wants me to have a baby for them, cause she can't have kids. If I did that for them would they be able to adopt the baby without going through the adoption thing? C... |
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Do you think we're being a little hard on first time PAPs looking for information? |
| The last few days I've seen a lot of questions from presumably first time posters on this forum, who are PAPs looking for information. Some of the respondants have picked apart the question, ... |
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Do you agree that, ALL other things being EQUAL, a child is best off staying with his/her biological mother? |
Additional Details Since this seems to be confusing some people, I will give one brief addition.
In saying that things are equal, I want to eliminate abuse, poverty, ... |
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What can I do about my family who does not want me to adopt? |
| My wife and I are trying to adopt our second child because having another child bio would be harmful to my wife (medical reasons) We are going through the foster system and my family is not happy ... |
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Does anyone think those adopted as babies or very young children should NOT try to find their birth parents? |
Before anyone goes crazy, let me make two things clear:
I am not adopted.
I am not judging anyone who does want to find their birth parents. I just want to know the other side ... |
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Why does everybody hate on the "infertile" people? |
| Seriously, I am beginning to wonder. I just read an answer to a question about adopting as a way to save the planet and one response was "at least its not b/c they are infertile" Time and ... |
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Do you think Jesus would rather a woman choose abortion or adoption for her child...? |
| Many say aboortion and adoption have nothing to do with each other; many say they have everything to do with each other. Both options exclude parenting the child. So, if a woman does not want to ... |
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Do people who have been adopted blame others all their lives for their adoption? |
| I see it a lot on this section where a person will put the blame on others who choose to adopt, for themselves being adopted and having a bad experience. I also see a lot of I was treated like this, ... |
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Let's put the question to those who apose abortion. If you apose abortion, how can you support adoption? |
| What more can I add. If you are against the cruelty of abortion, then why do pro life's suggest adoption is a better option when there is little choice involved and it can be a very cruel ... |
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Adopted persons...how do you feel when people say your adoptive parents "took you in"? |
| I am entirely turned off by this. I wasn't some poor little waif wondering the streets like a stray cat that someone decided to take home. I was a child who was eligible for adoption. My ... |
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Do you think the stigma against childlessness causes many people to adopt...? |
...when in reality, at their core, they don't truly want to be parents?
I wanted to ask this question a while ago, but I forgot about it (der)...Someone's answer to another ... |
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If you couldn't get pregnant would you adopt a child or stay childless? |
I was talking with my best friend about trying for a baby soon after I get married and she brought up infertility (her sister is going through it).
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How is having an abortion "easier" than carrying a baby to term & adopting?
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I just never understood how it's the easier choice...can anyone explain? Plus you risk death, being infertile, and everyone I know lives with so much shame/ emotional pain from the procedure.
(This isn't a pro life pro choice debate thread im just asking the question)
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BOB
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It's selfish. People don't want to carry the baby to term because then people might talk about them. They would have whispers and what not...but it's not a good reason to have an abortion.
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Spotty-Dotty
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Having an abortion is the selfish way out for a killer...Adoption is a billion times better than abortion...Would you kill a teenager? No, so don't kill a baby..
I have so little respect for 50% of the users in this section...Firstly the birth mother, or should I say beasts who abandoned their children..Secondly, the "unhappy" adoptees who moan on the internet like that's going to cure their depression and can't just get on with their life and I have full respect for the adoptive parents..
Bottom line, Abortion is murder and pushing someone out of your vagina doesn't make you a parent.
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Linda
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Because it immediately stops. Your not pregnancy anymore and the baby is gone. Adoption is a commitment, Abortion is a cop-out.
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webbyykinzz
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its not because youll feel bad about abortion
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♥Katherine Lovada♥
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I have no idea...How is killing your baby any easier then giving it to a loving family?
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♥ Tasha
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I Think It's Because Your Giving The Baby A Chance At Life, Instead Of Murdering It.
I Dunno :)
Good Luck With Finding The Answer ! :) ( If There Is One That Is Lol )
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Patsy A
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"Easier" may not be the right word. It's quicker, is about the only thing going for it. It's over and you can get on with your life, rather than falling in love with a tiny person in the course of living with it for months. Term pregnancy also has its dangers, but at least you have a baby to show for it.
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cmc
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I don't think anyone can say which is easiest in a general sense. Each woman would have to decide that for herself. Both are very tough and personal choices, as is the decision to parent a child resulting from an unwanted/unexpected pregnancy.
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Jennifer L
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While I agree that an abortion is a relatively safe procedure, I think that the people saying there's a "zero chance" of complications didn't fully read the surgical consent form before signing.
There are risks and complications (including potientially life-threatening) with ANY surgery. Abortion is no exception.
As far as which is "easier", I cannot say. I have never had an abortion and I have never placed a child for adoption.
I think there are women who have had an abortion and never look back. I think there are women who have had an abortion and it haunts them for the rest of their lives.
I think there are some women (probably VERY few) that place a child for adoption and never look back. I think there are women who placed a child for adoption and never get over it.
My opinion is that it comes down to the individual's experience and nobody else can decide what they should be feeling for them.
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Chanel
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Truly, I would say the neither is easier than the other. It all depends on the person and their personal morals and values.
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gєσяgιє
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first of all there is no chance of death in an abortion. its not a serious surgery, its very simple.
its easier because you dont have to go through pregnancy- pregnancy is hard, and not to mention much more expensive than an abortion (most abortions cost around 300 dollars)
and honestly, a lot of people dont feel any emotional pain.
i have never regretted my decision, and i have never felt emotional or physical pain due to it.
but i did adopt a puppy, just to ward off any possible maternal instincts... and that also made me even more happy with my choice, as raising a puppy is HARD, and it was hard enough on me, i dont even want to think about handing a kid.
also its like it just gets rid of the problem.. instead of spending a year of your life harboring a creature that you arent even going to keep.
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kateiskate is getting married
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Your argument makes no sense because it is based on the fact that adoption does not ever result in any of the outcomes you listed as caused by abortions.
Many women have died from childbirth. Many women have become infertile after childbirth. Most natural mothers live with guilt, shame, and emotional pain from surrendering their child for adoption.
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iyamacog
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I believe you should better understand the choices of abortion. It's no longer in the back alleys, thus the complications you mention are not likely. I would much rather see one abort EARLY, rather than carry and deliver an unwanted baby, to be abused or murdered before they reach adulthood. This is simply my opinion to your question....And the free choice of any woman. ♥♥
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mapleleaf2
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It is a myth that abortion has a high risk of death or infertility. If done properly, the risk is practically non-existant.
I know NO woman who lives with shame and/or emotional pain from the procedure. There are tons of pro-life-funded studies that say otherwise, but they focus on groups such as fundamentalist women who, due to their religious beliefs and the pressures from their religious communities, KNOW that the fact they have had abortions will NOT be accepted. This is the fault of the community, not of the woman. Women who feel forced to have abortions (and in the majority of cases it is poverty and lack of support for parenting that forces a woman to do so), should be given support, NOT be shamed or blamed as many anti-choice social groups do!
Carry a baby for nine months and tell me you did not bond with that baby.
With abortion, there is closure. With adoption there is NO closure as you cannot grieve an impermanent loss. The loss is ongoing, every day, and gets worse as your child grows up away from you. But how can you decide it is permanent when you know (hope, pray) that you child may return one day? Many of us who were forced to surrender children HAVE got them back, as adults, when they voluntarily returned to we who are actually related to them.
Study the findings. Grief and loss from surrendering a baby is just as bad as having a child die (Blanton and Deschner, 1990), especially if it is an "open" adoption. Grief and loss from an abortion is less in intensity and frequency than having a full-term baby die.
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Shanny
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In one sense having an abortion is like losing something you never really knew you had.
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ALLURING
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well adoption can be hard because you have to give birth 2 someone and have 2 explain 2 them why you didn't want them etc. adoption isn't always the better roses there are people who will mistreat them Just look at the women who was jailed because her adopted son was like 70 lbs and neigh boors caught him digging in the garbage 4 food he was like a skeleton! i personally dont see me getting an abortion but thankful that i do have a Choice
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Fuaite le fuil, gaolta go deo
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Abortions are generally performed in the first trimester, the "child" is merely an embryo. With abortion, there is a sense of closure, knowing that the baby was never born. With adoption, you start to love your baby more every single time you feel a kick. Giving away your child goes against nature, you love your baby at that point, it's inevitable that you'll love and want that baby.
If I was in desperate enough circumstances, I'd abort because I wouldn't want to give my baby to strangers. By the way, about 40% of first mothers go through secondary infertility, meaning after giving away their first child; they can no longer conceive.
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Serenity71
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There are no guarantee's in life. Some choices in life can be painful on many levels its the lessons we learn as we grow older. its wrong to compare them against each other.
Talk to a person who's lived until a very old age I bet they'll be able to tell you about making a pain life changing decision at any one point in their life...some were not even choices. Abortiion, giving up a baby for adoption...shame about something along the way. Goes with the journey of life.
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Jack Putter
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I'm pro-life for my own body, but even I can see how passing something the size of a walnut would be easier than something the size of a watermelon. You risk death when giving birth, too, and the chances are much higher. You risk infertility no matter what you do, and as I understand it, secondary infertility rates for women who have surrendered children for adoption are markedly higher than the rest of the population. I understand the idea of shame and emotional pain. I've known women who felt that way, too. I've also known women who have surrendered their children to adoption, and looking in from the outside, those who lost children to adoption seem to have far more shame and emotional pain than those who have had abortions (among those I know).
None of the available choices are easy. Including parenting. Once you're pregnant, I think it's going to change your entire life no matter what you do. However, I've heard far, far more stories of women "moving on" in meaningful, emotionally healthy ways after having abortions than after losing their children to adoption.
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Cutty
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I think it depends on the circumstances of the pregnancy. And you must remember that pregnancy isn't risk free. With all the risks of abortion it's still less risky than carrying a baby to term and delivering it. In most countries an abortion is only legal if the risk to the mother's physical health is less than the risks associated with birth.
I've had two babies and although carrying them and giving birth has done a lot of damage to my health I cannot imagine any circumstances under which I would have aborted either of them. If I were to get pregnant again I'd have to think about it because if my health gets any worse then I'll be no use to the children I have.
But what about if I'd been a different person going through a different pregnancy. What if I was very young, or I'd been raped or was scared to tell my family I was pregnant. Then I can imagine that abortion might seem like the only option.
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casttostrangers
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I moved on from my abortion. No shame or guilt.
My mom on the other hand never moved on from relinquishing me.
We will both always carry "shame/ emotional pain from the procedure" of my adoption
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Hope Lily's mummy (06/12/09)
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I don't think I could go through with an abortion personally, but I know I couldn't go through with an adoption - I'm 22 weeks and feel my baby move all the time and it's so magical, I don't know how you can fail to create a bond with your unborn child. Giving mine away would be far too painful.
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I'm No Supermum!
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There are thousands of kids in the foster system in america, still awaiting adoption. Rather than pushing adoption for the pro-life debate, we should be educating about contraception. Adoption is great in theory, but the reality of it is a different thing.
Having carried 2 babies to term, I can say what it does to your body and your mentality. I have never had an abortion, but I can see how some would consider it the 'easier option'.
Additionally - almost every mother gets the rush of love at birth, it is a hormonal reaction. Not every mother continues to feel the same way, which is how you end up with abused children. You cannot expect a mother to hand her baby over at birth when she loves them at the time, but what happens when they fall out of love? More children in the foster system, facing more uncertainty, an unstable youth and potentially more abuse.
(also, it has been medically proven that there are more medical risks with carrying a baby to full term than having an abortion)
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BOTZ
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Have you done both?
Neither have I.
I would not choose either option (unless my life or health were in serious jeopardy... then I would have an abortion).
I can think of ABSOLUTELY NO circumstance under which I would ever surrender my own child for adoption. Why? I am adopted.
What a lot of people fail to realize is that adoption does not (necessarily) mean that a child will be placed with a "loving family". I was not. I was abused in my adoptive home -- and ONLY in my adoptive home. While neither of my natural parents ever had the opportunity to raise me (and NOT abuse me), they have 5 more children between them and NOT ONE of my siblings -- raised by our own natural parents -- has ever been abused... EVER!
If "everyone you know" lives with shame and pain from the procedure, you must not know many women who have had abortions. Or, more likely, you know one or two who are religious (or have religious neighbors/families but had one anyway) and they are being shamed from the OUTSIDE. I know 12 women personally, and many more only casually, who have had abortions. I know several dozen more through my work as a social worker. The pain and regret expressed by my friends, associates and clients accounts for about 5-6% of them. Yes, there are some who regret it. I have one client who is suffering post-abortion infertility (so far). MOST of my friends, associates and clients who have undergone abortion have children, fulfilling lives and relationships and ZERO regrets.
One of my clients has both placed a child for adoption and had an abortion. Guess which choice she is still in therapy for (eleven years later)? Adoption. Knowing her son is "out there" and not knowing if he is well, loved... even alive. She can't deal with that. She has 2 daughters now and a very kind and supportive husband. When did she have an abortion? 5 years ago. Why? She was unmarried (at the time) and, having lost a son who she thinks about and grieves for daily, she could not even fathom the concept of another child 'out there'. We discussed her options for raising the child on her own. She chose not to continue the pregnancy -- which was absolutely her right.
She has told me time and again that she is GLAD -- no regrets there -- that she made the choice to terminate her pregnancy at that time.
She is still counting the days (and hours, and minutes) until she can search for her lost son.
How is carrying a baby to term and surrendering (not "adopting" -- only the adoptive parents are "adopting") "easier" than having an abortion?
Your position is clear... whether or not you want to call it a pro-life/pro-choice thread.
Until you've done both (and I haven't either) you can only listen to those who have... or at least considered it... and take it from them.
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MANGINA!
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Well when you're giving your child up for adoption, you have to experience the unfortunate moment of holding your child in your arms who you do love and care for and then give them away to someone else and you're well aware of the fact that you're never going to see them again.
When you abort, you never got to meet that child. It was still just an "it" to you.
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LinnyG
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Yeah, this IS a pro-life thread, and its been done to death. Pun intended.
First of all, the risk of dying from an abortion is less than dying from being sedated and having a tooth pulled. You're not even sedated in most cases.
Coat hanger abortions caused infertility. The procedures to terminate over the last 25 years are perfectly safe...and LEGAL. Again- much higher chance of dying or becoming "infertile" with pregnancy from a complication during pregnancy and/or childbirth.
I had an abortion BECAUSE I was adopted. There was no way I would throw a kid out there to wonder about their parents and suffer some of the issues I suffered from. My adoptive Mom even suggested it, paid for it, and drove me to the appointment.
Stats have shown women who terminate would never consider adoption anyway, and vice versa.
Abortion is the choice to terminate a pregnancy. Adoption is the choice to terminate parental rights. No one can adopt someone's fetus, and it is not the responsibility of fertile women to be incubators for barren women. I have no shame or regrets from having an abortion. Its a surgical procedure. I had a boob job after having cancer. Should I feel shame for that procedure, too?
There will be first Moms who will answer who have done both. Abortion was less emotionally traumatizing than relinquishing. Hands down.
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LadyCatherine
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you do realize that a woman can risk death, become infertile after having a baby.. these risks are NOT just associated with having an abortion.
also there is NO shame in having an abortion.. NONE!!
Neither choice is easier then the other.. both are hard..
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AdoreHim
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I counseled women for over 10 years that were contemplating abortion. And the answer I got to this question the most was that it would easier to abort, because they could not carry a baby to term and then "give it away", They think that a baby in the womb is an "it" and impersonal. Which truly is not the case. I am very thankful that my birth mom did not think this way, or I would not be here. It isn't easy to place for adoption. I especially realized that when my husband and I adopted our 2 children, and met their birth moms. Birth mothers who abort are only thinking about themselves, birth moms that place for adoption are thinking about what is best for the baby.
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