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xwheres_homex
I have a disciplinary Hearing for saying ' I Dont give a F***' to one of my colleagues.?
I had a little argument with one of my colleagues who started saying who basically was stating 'i am better than you as i do more sales than you', to which i responded 'i dont give a **** how many sales you do'.

Because of this, she went and complained, and apparently, couldnt stop crying....

Is it just me who thinks that the disciplinary hearing they want to take is completely out of proportion!?



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Bob D
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so simple. 1st amendment.freedom of speech

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sassy2
Sorry but you will have to admit to being wrong. The use of such an abusive form of language is unacceptable in the work place.

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kapn
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It appears your gonna be out of work.......not for saying $uck but for not respecting the rights of others........no team player here......get your resume up........your gonna need it.....

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lisa_anna
I believe that it went a little out of proportion. Some people just say things because they don't have any self confidence and she was probably looking to get some of that from you. I could be wrong, but she may have been just looking for some support. It was wrong of her to rub it in your face, but just remember to stand up for yourself no matter the outcome.

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joe c
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You cant use the F-word during an argument with people in the workplace. It sounds like you have really upset this woman and she quite rightly, should expect not to have to take personal abuse at work.

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OverRuled23
Some very good advice here.

Suggestion: apologize, shake hands and document to that fact. You could say:

"I, (your name) deeply apologize for acting in an unprofessional verbal manner towards (her name) on (date of occurence) (or words to that effect). I'm not sure if you should include the exact words that led to this argument....

Written and Signed: (both names printed and signed on seperate lines)
Dated:

Give a copy to her and your boss before the disciplinary hearing. Who knows - by doing so the hearing could be cancelled : )

Good luck

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Binthere Doneit
Well, to be honest I think it is stupid too, but... The society that you and I work in is weak. Political correctness has been blow way out of proportion. I feel as you do. Matter fact I would love nothing more to smack someone for being stupid. But there are laws and polices to protect the stupid and weak. The only option you have is to work for yourself. Then you can build a castle climb to the top and crap on everyone you don't agree with. Until then play thew game.

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Cubs Girl
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Well first off..

you created a hostile environment and harassed her. Harassing can be swearing at an employee.

If your company has a no tolerance harassment policy then they are going to terminate you.

Usually how this works is that they might suspend you without pay or terminate you. It just depends on a lot of things especially what happened.

I hope your company trains their employees on harassment...Good Luck

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domquin
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It is out of proportions, she should have been able to deal with it, and not gone reporting it.
But unfortunately companies have rules about swearing in the work place, there is nothing you can do except apologise and say that you didn't mean to offend her. She started the teasing by saying that she was better than you, so technically she was belittling you, which is also forbidden in the work place.
Good Luck ;-)

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Debbi (SOC)
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Pathetic. Stand your ground with them.

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Nigel
Doesn't sound like an argument to me and its a little one sided as well! You obviously replied strongly but only because she was boasting.... that would annoy me to.

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iheartpsh
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tell them at the hearing what she said. just be honest. i firmly believe what goes around comes around if she wants to act like a silly girl let her. eventually this will come back on her. just go to the hearing.dont talk about it to anyone or ***** about it. just get on with it and you will be well above her. however on this advice i am assuming you are not a manager, supervisor etc? if you are then it is kinda out of order. otherwise you aint done nothin wrong.
stupid girl!

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Judy
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You were out of line obviously, but yes I think she over-reacted or was putting on a show. Your employer is doing what they have to, responding to a formal complaint. Your best bet is to apologize, and put it behind you. Apologizing to her BEFORE the hearing might be a good move on your part - something half-way like "I'm sorry if my language the other day offended you".

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BrilliantPomegranate
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It's a good thing she didn't go to my secondary school then - she would have been in clinical depression for years with the amount of f words I heard!

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Cari
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I agree, that is completely out of proportion.

I think the only way that disciplinary action could be warranted is if you'd been in an environment where clients could have overheard your use of foul language. Since you don't mention this and believe that the reason for the disciplinary is solely because your colleague was upset, then yes, this is definitely out of proportion.

Normally, I'd be the first to say you should stand your ground and argue back. But right now, jobs are scarce so you may just need to stand there and accept whatever punishment / telling off / whatever they see fit to dole out.

I think you should simply make the point that you apologise if your colleague was upset, but you didn't believe that she would take the comment so seriously.

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Well, said Alberto
Careful. You don't know what story she told & if you appear aggressive or superior in the Disciplinary you could be in the sh*t.

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monkeyface
I think it is outrageous that it has gone this far.
You shouldn't have sworn at her but her reaction has been a bit extreme.
There should have been a discreet word at the end of the working day, an apology made & then back to normal.
Robots can control their moods all the time, human beings can't. Best try to bite your tongue, be apologetic, promise to watch your language & keep your head down.
Good Luck

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BRIAN S
Get a grip folks.
Abuse is abuse. Work colleagues are entitled to be treated with respect, and companies are entitled to expect their staff to act in a proper and courteous manner. Think of the effect if this language was heard by a customer. Try to realise that you have a responsibility to your colleagues and you employer.

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minska89
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You need to explain yourself like so. Explain the context of the conversation, honestly. You can be honest and say that you thought your colleague was boasting and demeaning your skill as a sales person. (After all she was being a ******) You felt undermined and humiliated and reataliated to her comment. Admit that you may have handled the situation wrongly but that you feel that you are not completely to blame as she may have been looking for this outcome. Making you look bad. Be gracious, somewhat honest and reliable. Explain that you are not a vendictive person and you would like to redeem yourself with this colleague. This will make you look good, and make her look like a complete twat...Good luck....ID SAY THE SAME!

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andy w
So why was it necessary to swear to say that?

You could just as easily said "I don't care how many sales you do".

Swearing in that situation and at a work colleague is virtually guaranteed to get you in trouble as it will be seen as agressive and threatening and at worse it will be classed as an assault.

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