For people who believe in Pro Choice?

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Muledancer	The death penalty is a deterrent imposed by the judicial system, determined by evidence under rule of law and judged by the accused's peers. Nowhere in the Bible are we instructed to avoid a legal execution. We _are_ instructed in many places not to _murder_, which is what an abortion accomplishes. Pro-choice means only legalized murder of a _proven innocent_ human for the sake of convenience. There are no accidental babies, only accidental parents. Was this answer helpful to you? Yes / No

rugerminithirty	how is an innocent child equal to a convicted criminal? Was this answer helpful to you? Yes / No

David E	Sooooooo..... In answer to "do you believe in the killing of innocent people or guilty people", your answer would be "yes"? Your argument doesn't make sense as a totalitarian view. An innocent baby and a mass murderer are not on an even playing field. Personally I'm against both, but appreciate that a death row inmate actually gets the chance to plead it's case. Whereas in abortion there are only victims Was this answer helpful to you? Yes / No

michael b	A baby is meat?!?!? You are a sick and disgusting individual and should seek professional help.I'm not trying to be belligerant or nasty, but girl, you are seriously messed up to ever think that an unborn child is simply "meat" Was this answer helpful to you? Yes / No

Ben Thayer, Don Thatt	question is when does life begin? I say it doesn't begin in a fetus. Fetuses are just a meat body with no soul, and it's only after the fetus is born and become independent of the mother can it said to be alive, ie., when it draws it's first breath, pran, the energy life of God. Was this answer helpful to you? Yes / No

Boo	ahhhh...but the person on death row has made his choice. In committing murder they have chosen their path. A unborn child needs advocates to help them, since they obviously do not have a voice as yet. Was this answer helpful to you? Yes / No

☆♥Jody♥☆	I believe in the death penalty if it is someone who has killed someone else and it is 100% true that they did it. Was this answer helpful to you? Yes / No

girl_on_the_couch_inak	im pro death penalty and pro abortion Was this answer helpful to you? Yes / No

Icarus	Your premise is wrong. I am pro-life and I support the death penalty and I am not inconsistent. Here is why: the unborn child is innocent and has done nothing to deserve being killed; conversely, the criminal receiving the death penalty is guilty and his execution is the state-proscribed penalty for his crime; there is no conflict. However, the pro-abortion, anti-death penalty proponent, as you point out correctly, is inconsistent for reasons that can be extrapolated from my example above. Was this answer helpful to you? Yes / No

Barry C	that is pretty flawed logic. that is like saying if you like apples, you must grapes. the only thing in common is "fruit-ness", and in your example, the only thing in common is "Life or death". but that is not really true either... what you are asking about are changes in legal status afforded by a change in the human lifecycle. In one case, you are talking about a fetus, which has no standing as a legal person under the law, entering into the dead state of the human lifecycle without ever having been born, and hence without ever having, under the law, having been recognized as a "legal person". In the other case, you are asking about someone who has been born, and hence does have standing under the law as a human person, entering into the dead state of the human lifecycle. The difference is whether or not the law recognizes them as someone with standing, and hence rights. You can argue that the law should be changed, but you can't argue that such a difference does not exist. It just makes you look childish in your level of understanding of the matter. Note I am saying all this without revealing my position in either dispute - simply because your logic is so flawed it harms your own position, well, fatally, and I want you to be able to do better. Was this answer helpful to you? Yes / No

El Guapo	I think you're oversimplifying both issues. There is no inherent contradiction in being pro-life and pro-capital punishment, OR vice-versa. The abortion issue generally comes down to where you believe that life begins. Pro-lifers think life begins at conception (and therefore, logically, abortion is murder), whereas pro-choicers believe life begins at birth. Both sides will dazzle you with scientific studies and supposed evidence to support their case, but there simply is no way to "prove" either side - it boils down to what you BELIEVE. The death penalty is a completely unrelated issue. I supported capital punishment for a long time, but the more I learned about it, the more I came to oppose it. In the end, several factors changed my mind: 1. By far the most compelling is this: Sometimes the legal system gets it wrong. In the last 30 years in the U.S., over 100 people have been released from death row because they were exonerated by DNA evidence. These are ALL people who were found guilty “beyond a reasonable doubt.” Unfortunately, DNA evidence is not available in most cases. No matter how rare it is, the government should not risk executing one single innocent person. [To those who say that the death penalty kills only those who “deserve it” – please read the above paragraph again.] Really, that should be reason enough for most people to oppose it. If you need more, read on: 2. Because of higher pre-trial expenses, longer trials, jury sequestration, extra expenses associated with prosecuting a DP case, and the appeals process (which is necessary - see reason #1), it costs taxpayers MUCH more to execute prisoners than to imprison them for life. 3. The deterrent effect is questionable at best. Violent crime rates are actually higher in death penalty jurisdictions. This may seem counterintuitive, and there are many theories about why this is (Ted Bundy saw it as a challenge, so he chose Florida – the most active execution state at the time – to carry out his final murder spree). Personally, I think it has to do with the hypocrisy of taking a stand against murder…by killing people. The government fosters a culture of violence by saying, ‘do as I say, not as I do.’ 4. There’s also an argument to be made that death is too good for the worst criminals. Let them wake up and go to bed every day of their lives in a prison cell, and think about the freedom they DON’T have, until they rot of old age. When Ted Bundy was finally arrested in 1978, he told the police officer, “I wish you had killed me.” Khalid Shaikh Mohammed (the architect of the 9/11 attacks) would love nothing better than to be put to death. In his words, "I have been looking to be a martyr [for a] long time." 5. Most governments are supposed to be secular, but for those who invoke Christian law in this debate, you can find arguments both for AND against the death penalty in the Bible. For example, in the Sermon on the Mount, Jesus praises mercy (Matthew 5:7) and rejects “an eye for an eye” (Matthew 5:38-39). James 4:12 says that God is the only one who can take a life in the name of justice. Leviticus 19:18 warns against vengeance (which, really, is what the death penalty amounts to). In John 8:7, Jesus himself says, "let he who is without sin cast the first stone." Was this answer helpful to you? Yes / No

smedrik	I am pro choice and I don't believe in the death penalty. I see them as separate issues. I don't like abortion, I find abortion discusting and would never have one. However that is between that woman and her maker, not me, not you and certainly not government. I don't believe in the death penalty as I don't believe a panel of "peers" to be capable to deciding life or death. I think it is a horrible burdon to put on some people. I personally would have a very hard time with being a juror on a case where the death penalty is in play. It is not in my nature to kill. So I am pro choice and anti death penalty becuase although I could never kill, It isn't my place to condemn those who do. Was this answer helpful to you? Yes / No

dukemack	Yes strong pro choice, Yes I strongly believe in the death penalty and yes I'm a republican.. I also feel the term "pro-life" should be changed since all that group is advocating and attempting to mandate for mid and low income (high income can fly to Europe) is delivery. Call it pro - delivery, lousy life. Was this answer helpful to you? Yes / No

Melissa L	some of these answers are very disturbing! a baby is meat .... some of you need to educate yourselves..... Was this answer helpful to you? Yes / No

brat	I'm pro choice and I don't agree with the death penalty - it might have something to do with the fact that I'm Australian & haven't had to deal with that sort of thing here since it was stopped many yrs ago, but I have done my fair share of research on the issue & don't think its necessary. I also agree with euthanasia - we will put down out pets & animals when they are sick & in pain, but we make our fellow human beings suffer until their last breath in cases. Was this answer helpful to you? Yes / No

Katie	oh go away, you are a very stupid, small minded individual and you have no idea what you are talking about. Was this answer helpful to you? Yes / No

MLE	Yes I believe in the death penalty. But your question isn't a question just a pre judgment of people you don't know. Was this answer helpful to you? Yes / No

Mutt	I'm pro-law. The law says that women have the choice to have an abortion or not, and I support it. If abortion is banned in the future, I'll support that. But it is not an issue I use to determine who I vote for. Same for the death penalty. My state does not have it, but other states do. What ever the law is, I support it. This doesn't mean I agree with all laws on all subjects, but I do support them. But abortion and death penalty are two issues I have no opinion on either way, other than what the law is at the time. Was this answer helpful to you? Yes / No