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 Adoption? my mom wants to gve it up?
im 17 and having a baby in a month my mom thinks i should give it up for adoption but i would like to keep it she never supports anything i do i wish should would help in a time like this! i would ...


 Can a father stop the adoption of an unborn child?
Mother resides in FL. & Dad in MN. Mom is 16 & Dad is 17....


 Im so confused about keeping or adopting!!?
Im due in Oct and I need advice, I dont want my parents involved or my bfs because mine are really strict and his are drug users and pretty air headed (my bf isnt a user infact he works for a re-hab ...


 Parents? pusshing adoption.. what should i do?
im like 7 or 8 weeks pregnant and my mom was pushing abortion and now she is pushing adoption
idk what to do im stressing out!
im 17 ill be 18 in october and im trying not to stress
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 Putting a baby up for adoption?
Hi,
I was wondering where i could put my baby up for adoptin if my mind went that way. I'm 7 weeks pregnant tomorrow. I dunno what to do at the moment and i would appreciate it if people ...


 Doctor refusing to provide treatment to birthmother.?
My OB/GYN is refusing to see me because I am considering giving my baby up for adoption and have contacted an agency who has helped me establish Medicaid coverage for the pregnancy. They have told ...


 What can we do to take away the bitterness?
I have noticed that there are some people in this area of Y!A that just have this bitterness within them, and they want nothing more than to spew it all over the rest of us.
I am not saying that ...


 I dont know if I'll ever be okay...I gave my baby up for adoption?
I gave birth 5 days ago and I miss my son so much. I didn't hold him my last day at the hospital because i was afraid I'd take him and run... tomorrow I meet his new family for the first ...


 Why, for parents, an adopted child is different than a natural child?
Or is it the same?
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i guess is not the same, but what is different ...


 Do you believe that adoptive parents are glamorized and idealized?
I'm not saying they're not wonderful people. I know mine were. But to read most of the posts on this site, you would think they were Madonna incarnate. (Or at least Angelina Jolie ...


 Birth Mom wants visit w/ 6mon. old adopted son, should we?
She wants the person who introduced us, who is her best friend & our babysitter, to supervise in our home, without us here. She lived w/us for 3 mon. before his birth, and broke our trust by ...


 What is the "right" reason for someone to adopt? Is it a No Win situation for APs here?
It seems that is wrong to want to parent a child that is not your flesh and blood(apparently it makes you a baby/child stealer).
It seems that it is wrong to want to parent if you are unable to ...


 Can you do some kind of a like, "rent to own" with adoption?
My wife and I wanted to adopt, but kind of like a trial run rent to own sort of thing. Does anyone have like, a website or something?...


 Gave up baby 7 years ago, is it okay to ask for pics?
the way the adoption agencys policys were at that time was you could only recieve pictures up until the 3rd year, and the adoptive parents were very open about that. (He knows all about me too) now ...


 Let's put a different spin on it...if you were pregnant?
and in some financial hardship...like many, many of us have been...how would you have felt if your very best friend suggested that perhaps your child would be better off if you gave it up for ...


 If your boss or best friend was adopting and wanted to keep it closed, etc, how would you respond?
They wanted a closed adoption, went to catholic charities, lutheran services or whatever.

Would you quit your job?

Would you stop being friends with your best friend?
A...


 Is it ok to spank an adopted child?
My neighbour has a 4 yrs old boy, adopted when he was born. Occasionally she gives him a swat on the butt for bad behaviour, and normally I know that's ok but what if they're adopted? Is ...


 Rather than adopt, would it be better to take in a young mom who doesn't have any options?
I've been to quite a few adoption web sites lately and several them are more anti-adoption than pro-adoption. These sites acknowledge that adoption is right for a select few, but they say it ...


 Reading all this in the adoption section is scaring me out of adoption?
My husband and I have considered adopting someday, along with having our own kids. Now reading everything in this section has scared me to the point where I am thinking that I may not even want to. I...


 Meant to be yours...???
Recently on my blog an AP mentioned that her adopted child was meant to be with them. That her children, were "her" children before she "knew" them, and before their international ...



a healing adoptee
Why do people assume that all b-parents are horrible people?
I know for my case that yes, my mother was a drug addict and that is why i was taken. However I do know of cases that the parents were underage and that was the reason the baby was given up for adoption. In this case I don't think it makes them horrible people, because they didn't do anything to harm the baby, they were just underage. Or in some cases the mothers' parents have made the mother give the baby up because they did not want the stigma of an unwed mother. In these cases i don't think these were horrible people. So why is the general picture always painted that all birth parents are these horrible, evil beings?
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b-parents: biological parents, birth parents. whatever term you wish to use.



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paintedhorse30
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I never heard anyone say that and I have never heard anyone call them b-parents.

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De
I think people don't understand that you can willingly give a child up because you feel its for the child's on good. I think it is horrible and wrong. When it is being what a parent is, selfless.

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Paulabear
...I've never heard of this before.
This is a generalization.

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Broberts
They shouldnt say that. I admire anyone who gives up their child at birth or later regardless of the circumstances. Good on them for giving a child a chance at life even if they couldnt provide it themselves. Most people are not bad, they just make bad decisions or wrong choices but this doesnt make them a bad person. People should mind their own business.

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HappyMomAnna
I don't know--and wouldn't judge anyone personally....

All I do know is that No one could have convinced me to place any of my children unless it was my deep choice... They would have had to cut my arms off to take my child so no number of words or coercion would have worked on me...I would have crawled to the moon before unwillingly allowing a child of mine to be placed for adoption...

As for those taken by foster care it's the same deal. If the state came to my home today and ordered me to have my arms chopped off to keep my children I would walk to the doctor to have it done... If I had to run barefoot through hot coals I would before my children were taken...

I guess that is why some of Us cannot relate to ANY reason a mother would have children placed for adoption other then the fact that the mother chose this for her baby knowing her baby would be in a better situation.... But the idea that anyone can talk a person out of their child in 2008 does not compute with me....

In the past I don't believe this is the case.

So--some of us just see the actual fact that our child is in anyway Not our child to parent as kind of horrible... Doesn't even really matter why someone isn't parenting--some of us simply can't imagine this as anything less then horrible... Not even a judgement on the birthparents---some of us just believe that nothing short of Horrible would seperate us from our child--and some of us feel that way about our adopted child as well....

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kyia
Where did you get that assumption that all birth parents were bad. Each situation has it's own merits. It must be one of the hardest and most unselfish things to do. To give your child up so it can have a better life than you could give it. I think birth parents deserve some loving thoughts.

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Shelly P. Tofu, E.M.T.
no one thinks ALL b parents are horrible people

If people are talking about people being forced (by the state) to give up their children because they are unfit parents, then, that's who their talking about!! They're not talking about all birth parents, or the teenagers , or even the teenagers who's PARENTS make her give up her baby..

I don't see anyone trying to paint a picture of all birth parents as being horrible..

Even Surfnerd's question, as pot-stirring as it is, was talking about people who's parental rights have been terminated by the state.. end of story..

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Sophie
The "birth/biological"/natural/first parents who place their child for adoption are unable to parent for some reason or another. Some are bad at parenting (not bad themselves), some are in bad situations (and don't want their child in the same), and some are the best most awesome unselfish people on the face of the earth... most are mothers would do anything to give their children the world.

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Teacup
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People don't assume that, the child may often struggle with those thoughts because being given up is hard to cope with but and intelligent individual knows that certain circumstance dictates that being given up may very well be the best option.

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amelia!!
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what does b-parents stand for??! i hate these abbreviations

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Maureen S
All I can share with you is how I FEEL. I do NOT assume that all "b-parents" are "horrible people". Everyone has their own story to tell. I think that if you spoke to those that have adopted children, and who love their children, without question, you will find that their positive, loving attitudes run over to the "b-parent". Positive people think positively and negative people choose to put everyone in a box and stereotype them.

There are thousands of different reason that children are put out for adoption, a few of them, we probably could say, were were very sad people. However, "horrible" is a harsh word and I choose not to judge others by using it.

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Marie C
That assumption is a surprise to me! I've been told for the last few years that birth parents are all innocent victims of circumstance who were forced to give up their babies, and that we adoptive parents are greedy, child-stealing vultures who have no right to be bringing up someone else's child.

Obviously, both assumptions are untrue. There are good and bad birth parents, and good and bad adoptive parents. I know someone who was a married woman of 25 years old when she gave up her child for adoption. The reason: she did not want a baby to hamper her career. She never looked back, never desired a reunion, and moved across the country to avoid any connections being made.

This, in my mind, is far worse than a drug addict placing her baby in a dumpster. Drug addiction is a sickness, and that birthmom needs help. Utter selfishness is not a disease, and that woman does not deserve a child.

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Kaula Bear
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well some reasons why birth parents are concern as bad parents is because how their child acts. I understand that some parents dont want to have their children because they are too young, but my honestly opinion you shouldnt be laying down in bed if you are not ready to accept the fact that there is a chance of getting pregnant. To be ready to have sex mean you must be ready to get up out of your back and rasie the child. having a child out of marriage isnt all the horrible that people make it be to. But your right sometimes it is in the best of the child to be not with their birth parents because of drugs or anything like that. But if you are giving a child up because it is disabled now that is bs!!!! paintings are just sterotypiest thats all. There are some good paintings out there as well.

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C Wood
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I disagree with you. I haven't found most people assuming birth parents were horrible people.

It could be that you're responding to people from your personal background.
cw

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Still Me
I don't know where you get this idea. Not on this board, for example. People do tend, however, to either idealize birth parents and adoptive parents and adoptees -- as these totally virtuous, selfless victims. Or, they are each totally misaligned as either misfits, manipulative or sub-human.

Of course, none of this is true about any of these groups! Certain individuals - yes. Just as is the case about, let's say.... plumbers, or doctors.

People lump people in large sweeping categories when they lack the ability or desire to see people as individuals. It's just plain easier for some people to lump others (races, sexual orientation, occupations, etc.) into a fixed idea, rather than taking the time to dig a little and get to know real people.

So, yes, some ((ignorant)) people do portray some of the adoption triad as totally this or totally that. But that just says volumes about them as people. All groups are made up of individuals, with their own motivations, hearts and souls. And unless we have gotten to know their motivation personally, their hearts first hand, and were allowed to look into their souls -- we just cannot really know anyone.

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anythingwilldo
I don't think that is the general picture.

Anyone with half a brain knows that sweeping generalisations are always a mistake.

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Jennifer L
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I don't think that's the general picture of adoption at all! That said, I think that parents who had parental rights severed and the children forcibly removed from custody by the state are in a different catagory than the underage mother placing her infant for adoption that you address.

I think there's a need to make a distinction, IMHO.

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CP
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I don't assume all b-parents are horrible, evil people, are you referring to a particular answer/question? I know most of the "regular" posters here don't assume this either.

I'm pretty sure that this is not the general feeling towards all birth parents by adoptive parents or prospective adoptive parents (not to say there aren't a few wing nuts out there).

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rushingdl
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Sounds like the people whom you hear expressing this are ignorant about this part of life. Not all people think this way. And, even though your biological mother had problems with addiction, she is not a "horrible person" either. We all have the potential to take life-altering actions, and sometimes the results are negative.

I'm a birth mother, and I'm not a "horrible person," but I certainly was a confused and lost teenager once. My son grew up in a completely different environment than he would have if I had raised him. I think that he benefited from that, although I'm sure he wondered about "why" he was placed for adoption.

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Diclonius.
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No clue. I don't really understand the way other people think, I tend to stay to myself and not even judge other people.

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Goober G
Not all people assume that much. Just the judgmental ones. In that case, chalk it up to ignorance. Even worse, it could be that they're judgmental because they're just looking for a way to look down on another person to make themselves feel less worthless. A lot of times there are stories and feelings that we don't know about that can change our perspectives.

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MOMMY585
I know there are bad birth parents but I also know that it is an individual basis. I have known many foster kids who were eager to go home and others that never wanted to see their parents ever again. It just depends.

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punxy_girl
I do NOT think this of the first/natural/biological/birth mother of my daughter. IMHO it is mostly people who are not really involved in the adoption process who feel this way and this is probably fueled by Hollytrash.

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sleepingliv
I'm not so sure being a drug addict makes a person "horrible". Addiction is a terrible thing. It takes hold of you and does not let go, and some people struggle with it until death, like my Dad. He was not horrible, he did the best he could.

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crazy1everyday
I think we should use the term nmom nparents. it's not offensive. I learned that the word birthmother portrays natural mothers as incubators which have been created by the adoption industry to emotionally detach natural family members.The profound relationship of mother and child does not end at birth.

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snowwillow20
I was not a drug addict, crack whore or uneducated. I was young and let other people make my decisions for me, in the end, it was me who signed the papers so I take responsibility for what happened.
I consider myself her birthmom since I gave birth to her. She is my birthdaughter.
I punished myself for years and still do sometimes.

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Sweet Lilies & Lavender
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I understand where your coming from. Its really awful that it falls like that. Become an activist in your community.

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God Saves!
I don't know but it bugs me. My little brother is adopted and we always tell him that we're sure his parents were awesome people. He's an AIDS orphan so he never met them.

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Ess M
I don't know but it is wrong. Here in Ireland lots of babies were given up for adoption in the last generation because of religious beliefs and the Catholic church thinking that illegitimate babies were shameful to the family. Lots of women were forced to give their children up and have spent their lives regretting it. Not all birth parents are bad people...

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magic pointe shoes
Maybe this is just my own thoughts, but not only do the generalization statements of being horrible for getting pregnant and relinquishing hurt, but the other side of the comments get me just as riled up. I don't want to hear about what a wonderful selfless thing I did by relinquishing that others think I did.

I'm just tired of being put into someone else's box of why they think I did what I did. I'm not just the selfish person who left my child with another family so that I could try and move on with my life like it didn't happen... And I'm not just the selfless person who chose a better life for my child than I could provide. I'm both and neither.

Why is it so hard to see the plurality of emotion and intention when it comes to mothers like me? Both statements of being selfish or being selfless hurt. Neither are kind things to say.

eta- Nature Mommy, as of your edit only one person thumbs down your answer and that was me. Your answer is absolutely doing exactly what you state it isn't. It judges mothers like me as to our moral values in comparison to your own. Additionally if that wasn't enough, you then had to come back to edit your answer to add that telling our children the truth to the reason they were adopted and how complicated our families, our society, the people directly influencing that choice and our own actions created the reasons why that child was relinquished for adoption and simplifying that answer into a falsehood lie of "it was the best choice" is ridiculous. Our children deserve the truth of their existence and of their history. Not some rose colored glasses version. So yes, I thumbs down your answer. Your box trying to define my actions is one of many that I rebell against.

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BPD Wife
I am with you. My son's b-parents were not "great" people due to the neglect and abuse, but in the same respect, they "knew" they did not want to be parents and chose an adoption plan for their child - which I give them credit for. There are "some" b-parents who have issues, just as there are "some" adoptive parents who have issues or do not adopt for the right reasons. That does not make them "All" bad. I hate the generalizations that occur.

Not all b-parents are bad. Not all adoptive parents are "infertile". Not all adoptions are bad. Some are. We just need to understand and respect each other as each situation is different.

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